I barely used this cymbal honestly. After playing it for a few weeks I realized that it didn’t fit my cymbal set too well so I’m looking for a new one and I don’t need this one at all. It rides very well because that’s what I was looking for at the time and also does its crash job very well. I think it’s a great cymbal for someone who want a versatile cymbal, but I don’t need that so I’m getting rid of it.